Jelani Cobb writes about race, politics and historical past for The New Yorker. He’s additionally the dean of Columbia Journalism College and the creator of The Substance of Hope: Barack Obama and the Paradox of Progress.
The next interview was carried out by the Kirk Documentary Group’s Mike Wiser for FRONTLINE on July 5, 2022. It has been edited for readability and size.
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Early Claims of Election Fraud and the Republican Response – 0:00:00
Trump and the 2016 Election – 0:04:10
The Rise of Political Violence – 0:09:56
Trump, Cruz and the Republican Occasion – 0:17:37
Pence’s Calculation – 0:29:19
Trump’s Early Presidency and Charlottesville – 0:31:53
The First Impeachment – 0:41:31
Trump’s Response to the Black Lives Matter Motion – 0:49:02
Republican Response to Trump’s Claims of Election Fraud – 1:03:33
Stress on Pence – 1:09:57
Jan. 6 and the Aftermath – 1:13:37