6 Questions for Alex O’Donnell about the future of DeFi

Umami Labs CEO Alex O’Donnell grew up on the outskirts of Philadelphia earlier than attending Temple College to check literature and economics. That path led him to dedicate seven years of his life as a monetary journalist at Reuters, the place he specialised in M&As IPOs.

He mentioned his educational focus created a “fairly pure synthesis” when it got here ot monetary journalism. Nevertheless, he mentioned he grew to become “disenchanted” together with his business whereas he was cooped up at residence through the Covid-19 pandemic. “There actually was a three-way alliance between journalists, authorities officers and know-how corporations making an attempt to manage the circulation of data,” O’Donnell mentioned in an interview with Cointelegraph.

He started tinkering with cryptocurrency, which led to his introduction with Umami DAO — and finally his creation of Umami Labs.

O’Donnell and his spouse, Sanjana, are making ready for a “third, smaller individual” to hitch their household subsequent 12 months. Within the meantime, he mentioned he’s additionally gearing up for an additional crypto-related enterprise. The main points aren’t absolutely public but, however he mentioned he plans to launch extra info the months forward.

1) How’d you make the transition from journalism to crypto?

I’d been a journalist for the higher a part of a decade primarily protecting mergers and acquisitions. I at all times had an curiosity in finance and tech. However I began changing into a bit disenchanted with the mainstream media across the time of the pandemic. That was the primary time I began changing into a bit extra cynical about my very own business’s function within the info economic system. So I began paying extra consideration to points like privateness, censorship and different issues I had not taken as a lot curiosity in earlier than.

In 2020 I spent most of my time protecting the Covid-19 pandemic. There actually was a three-way alliance between journalists, authorities officers and know-how corporations making an attempt to manage the circulation of data. It wasn’t even that the official line was mistaken. It was that dissent was being stifled within the first place. That basically peaked my curiosity in decentralized platforms.  

At that time, I began to turn out to be meaningfully keen on crypto. On condition that I got here from monetary journalism, decentralized finance (DeFi) particularly caught my curiosity. I actually began actively investing in numerous crypto protocols as a retail investor in 2021. I used to be getting extra concerned in DeFi communities, and one in all them was the predecessor to Umami — ZeroTwOhm.

2) How did that result in you creating Umami Labs?

I acquired concerned in ZeroTwOhm as a daily retail investor aping in as many individuals did. It was a reasonably small group, so I used to be capable of fairly rapidly get involved with the builders constructing the protocol.

However they didn’t actually have a transparent sense of route about what they wished to do subsequent. They’d bootstrapped a number of hundreds of thousands of {dollars} in capital that was largely simply sitting there. It felt like any individual wanted to step in, and the builders have been, frankly, more than pleased handy duty off to another person, which ended up being me.

3) What are you targeted on now? 

What I’m most keen on now could be zeroing in on an issue that grew to become very clear to me throughout my time at Umami. Basically, as Umami Labs geared as much as launch our first product in early 2023, I used to be assembly with lots of crypto-focused hedge funds and huge particular person buyers. There was this gaping want for some strategy to securely earn curiosity on USDC, USDT, and different stablecoins with out having to only utterly transfer off-chain.

I already targeted at Umami on growing one other product that was designed to generate returns on stablecoins, however the actual want is for one thing that’s as safe and boring and dependable as a traditional financial savings account, however for individuals who have been holding stablecoins on on-chain wallets. There have been forays into that space by different gamers, however I’ve but to see an entire answer to that downside. It takes a mixture of getting the fitting regulated entities off-chain and seamless mechanisms for on- and off-ramping on-chain.

That’s one thing I’m personally targeted on now. I’m collaborating with some others on growing one thing, and getting suggestions from potential early customers. We’ll have extra particulars to share inside the subsequent couple of months. However for now, it’s nonetheless within the early levels.

4) What do you assume would be the greatest crypto developments in 2024?

In my private opinion, I do assume that the excessive level of the crypto market in 2021 actually was the high-water market of this period of very DIY, unregulated, type of community-run bootstrapped protocols. I feel that stepping into subsequent years, together with now, we’re going to see a reasonably stark shift by which DeFi stops trying a lot like a totally separate ecosystem. It’ll for all intents and functions turn out to be a subset of TradFi.

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I don’t assume the DeFi versus TradFi distinction goes to final. Clearly, we’re seeing numerous ETFs present process the registration course of. Within the background, main gamers are acquiring licenses to interact in a wider array of monetary actions within the U.S. Coinbase, for instance has, registered as a Futures Fee Service provider and likewise as a Designated Contract Market with the CFTC. That authorizes them to function an alternate and open accounts inside the futures markets. These will probably be focus, in fact, on Bitcoin and Ether.

Coinbase and Circle are accumulating completely different parts that may permit them to turn out to be deeply built-in operators inside conventional finance. I feel that could be very attention-grabbing. In parallel to that, you could have people resembling Constancy and Franklin Templeton and BlackRock growing regulated crypto funding merchandise. Franklin Templeton is growing its personal tokenized Treasury Invoice ETF. It’s fairly clear that will probably be a supply of momentum for the business over the subsequent a number of years.

5) What’s essentially the most attention-grabbing to you as an funding proper now?

Actually, the one factor in crypto that I’m keen on as a long-term funding is Ether and its staking and re-staking derivatives. I feel we’re nonetheless at some extent the place the overwhelming majority of potential investments in crypto are extraordinarily speculative. The underlying worth proposition of the tokens remains to be unclear. I feel ETH is among the few exceptions. So I do maintain ETH, and I’m snug with it as a long-term funding. 

I’m listening to the staking protocols like Lido and Eigen Layer. Eigen permits folks to take ETH they’ve already staked and re-stake it to any variety of completely different associated staking protocols. That very considerably expands the vary of actions that may be carried out trustlessly. I count on to see, over time, lots of constructing on high of Eigen and different comparable protocols. I feel we’ll see a proliferation of funding funds and ETFs specializing in taking ETH and staking it and re-staking it.

6) What do you assume is the primary hurdle to mass adoption of blockchain know-how?

There must be a full fusion of protocols on the bleeding fringe of blockchain, and extra established corporations which are built-in into the normal monetary sector and able to working compliantly from a regulatory perspective. We have to see established gamers integrating subtle sensible contracts and taking full benefit of blockchain’s potential. Then we’ll begin to see blockchain changing into a part of on a regular basis monetary transactions and actions.

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